And I disagree with you again. Demand for a seperate Gorkhaland is not only stupid but also unreasonable. Think logically. What did our previous leaders achieve in Jammu and Kashmir by migrating the Kashmiri pandits to Jammu? They have essentially created two seperate states within a state. One area is muslim dominated and the other is hindu dominated. You are seeing the results of dividing regions on such basis. Someone demands Gorkhland, others Khalistan. One wants Azad Kashmir whereas other wants Manipur. This is nonsense. Dividing states into smaller states does not mean they will cater to the needs of those people effectively. Prime examples are Uttrakhand and Jharkand whose areas are under worse conditions than what they were before. Disruption of normalcy is different. Why should others suffer losses for your own selfish causes? Are these Gorkhaland supporters willing to compensate for all the losses?

No one is trying to make others adhere to the mainstream. It is just about enlightenment. Why is there no sense of belonging to a nation? Why is there just a sense of belonging to a region and only foolish demands of seperation of these regions from the nation? Just like you said, we are all seperate and diverese but that does not mean we forget that we are Indians.

You must travel to Rajasthan, Haryana etc. and see the power that these Gujjars enjoy. They are not oppressed. Neither were the Meenas. Same is with the Bishnois. All these three groups enjoy reservations in the state of Rajasthan. All of them have got these for utilizing and exploiting this platform of reservations. The ones who need the reservations, will still not get them. Why? I fail to understand.

Your point regarding the Govt. schools etc. stands invalid. Free education is for all and not just for ST students. And it is only the Govt. schools or the so-called “free” schools who will provide it to them. Being an ST won’t help you there. I agree they lack infrastructure. But why don’t they demand it? If they are so concerned for their welfare and upliftment, why just focus on reservation and not on their basic right to quality education? If you can set the whole nation on fire for reservation, why not education?

The situation in Punjab is a staged political drama. That is what is sad. You are not here and you don’t see and here what the common man has to say about it. 70% of them want to kill the person of the other faith. Sad. They don’t care about education. There is no electricity in districts like Mohali and Patiala for 10-12 hours each day. Yet the people are more happy to talk about communal clashes rather than anything else.

And lastly, I disagree with you again. The fact that we think that being an Indian is one identity among the many that we have is wrong. Being an Indian must be on the top of the list. That is who we are and will forever remain. We are Indians and that is our primary identity. Every other identity is secondary.

And yes, we are responsible for our fate. But it doesn’t matter that you or me stands for elections or not. It will matter, when you, me and everybody else makes our government and politicians accountable for their actions rather than just following them blindly. It will matter, when the political parties know that the citizens of India are informed and not ignorant and they cannot take us for a ride. That is the way this system will be flushed clean. Us being a politician is not the only way, we have other alternatives as well.

I’m glad you took the time to respond. Gandhi still loves you dude !!

I disagree with you when you call the people wanting the separate State of Gorkhaland “assholes”, as I believe that there demand is completely justified.

They have been oppressed by Bengali babus, who control them from Kolkata, without heeding to their voice or the business men who collude with the Babus and politicians to gain control of Gorkhaland’s indigenous businesses. The disruption of so-called normalcy was essential and important because, after all you need a explosion to make the deaf hear. (Bhagat Singh had said the same during his trial)

We are Indians, after all, but that does not mean that our identities are not separate and diverse, and homogenization of identities, into the Akhand Bharat identity is nothing but trying to make everyone adhere to “mainstream” culture and identity.

Furthermore, I think that the Gujjars demand was just, though there means were not entirely justified. They have been oppressed since Independence, whereas there fellow Meenas have been able to become a very strong group politically and otherwise, in Rajasthan, though they shared the same level of social and educational backwardness.

And,they are dying for free education as well, though it wouldn’t do them much good, as despite having qualified from the best “free” school they are able to afford, they would still not be able to get cutting edge higher education or jobs, as these “free” schools are not the elite public schools that you and me have been to. An ST status would ensure free education and other benefits for them in these government run schools.

The situation in Punjab is more of a clash between the Jat-Sikhs (most of whom are ardent followers of SAD) and the Dharmi Sikhs (previously backward caste Hindus who converted to Sikhism, but who weren’t given equal rights and have now increasingly become followers of Dera Sacha Sauda, which supports the Congress party actively). The clash is a merely a political gimmick and nothing else.

I recently saw an advertisement for a a new political party – Jago Party. It claims to be a party of the people. I went over to their website and read through their objectives. The only reason I have decided to vote for them in any future election is that they are not being run by a family (I’m looking at you Congress) and are not trying to woo the voters on the basis of religion or caste (I’m looking at everybody else here).

I think Rahul, the answer to your last paragraph is that we really aren’t one country, and we don’t share the same culture/values and we have multiple identities, out of which the identity of being an Indian is just one among many. They choose to follow
leaders who are rapists and murderers because you and me will never stand for elections or be approachable to them. They really don’t have an alternative. And you know what… we are responsible for it.

I agree I’m ignorant, in loads of respects… well what do you expect from a 20 year old ? I try my best to analyse stuff from my perspective.

I fail to understand, the police and the courts can act if some guy abuses Sonia Gandhi on Orkut but they remain mute spectators while the country burns.

And I really appreciate that you took the time to read my rambling and even comment on it. It’s really a special moment when an intelligent conversation starts from your post. Keep visiting.

The sad thing about our country is that there are too many ignorant fucks out there. Well, in certain aspects you’re ignorant too, but you’re not one of the “ignorant fucks”. We need more people like you, who believe in India before all else.

I’m Gorkhali/Nepali….

Guess where I’m from?

Yes, I am from Chandigarh. I am a Punjabi but not a Sikh (Sardar).

Btw, why the curiosity ?

You’re from Chandigarh. Am guessing you’re a Punju.

Are you?

Sardar?